The Intersection of Online and Offline

As a devotee of Shel Holtz and Neville Hobson’s “For Immediate Release” podcasts, I listened to a recent episode in which their soon-to-be correspondent, Eric Schwartzman, was interviewed.  He mentioned the name of his podcast and blog, so I subscribed in iTunes.

And that’s where it went south.

I want to be clear about this post:  it is in no way intended to denigrate Eric’s body of work (impressive) or even the podcast.  But I could barely believe what I was hearing from Eric guest, Lou Capozzi, Chairman Emeritus of Publicis Public Relations and Corporate Communications Group.

Eric interviewed Lou on about his luncheon keynote at the PRSA International Conference on restoring America’s connections with the world.  This took place in Detroit at the end of October.  So, caveat #1:  I was not there to hear the speech and #2) Mr. Capozzi was presumably limited in the amount of time that he had on Eric’s show.

The premise of the podcast was the issue of America’s declining reputation throughout the world, one week away from the presidential elections (hmm…).  But I have to tell you, as I was listening to the podcast while driving to work and I had several of those moments in which I stared at my stereo in the car thinking, “did he really just say that?”

Here’s what I thought was bat-shit crazy:

Immigration People Suck

• Mr. Capozzi first stated reason why people don’t like America/ns anyway is “our visa and immigration policy.  We make it very difficult for people to get into this country.”   Mr. Capozzi cites long lines at immigration and even the “..tone, very threatening and foreboding” of the workers who process people.Mr. Capozzi:  with all due respect, you might remember the incidents of September 11, 2001.  You sound like someone who must travel a lot and lines in immigration counters and surly immigration workers are, in my mind, a given.  But I would much rather wait in long immigration lines than let someone in who is going to fly a plane into my building in Washington.  It’s the cost of doing business, literally.He also says “if you are in McDonalds and you are trying to get your guy in from Dubai, you’ve got your hands full.”  (stare at stereo moment).  So if I get it right, getting an executive from one international city to another constitutes and company “having [its] hands full?”  One would think that more pressing matters like the state of the global economy would constitute having one’s hands full.  Getting Bob from Accounting from Dubai to New York?  THAT is having your hands full?  Second, presuming that people don’t like America because we don’t have shiny, happy people at America’s Front Desk, I can’t imagine that a) the percentage of people who travel to this country is so significant that they go back to their home countries, trash us and spread the word so that entire countries hate us.  What I heard was a Chairman who is tired of waiting in immigration lines projecting this sentiment to one of the reasons why people hate America.

There Has Been a Broad Cooling Towards American Culture

• The above are Mr. Capozzi’s words, not mine.  “Music and art used to be a beacon, and American culture is not as widely embraced as it once was.”  I will caveat this statement by mentioning that I was not able to attend the PRSA conference at which Mr. Capozzi spoke, but upon what is this premise based?  Music sales?  Box office numbers in foreign countries?  Where’ the Beef?

The “Ugly American”

• (Stare at the stereo moment).  “The third thing is the ‘ugly American.’ Picture the guy in Bermuda shorts with a camera and his hat turned to the side walkin’ down the Champs Elysee. We just aren’t as sensitive as we need to be to the way that we conduct ourselves.”  Ok.  So the world hates America because of our Bermuda shorts and the way that we wear a baseball cap?  Come on.  Come up with a better reason than this.  Say that we should learn a few phrases in French.  Say that we could or should study some French culture before traveling to Paris.  But to state – and I quote – “Picture the guy in Bermuda shorts with a camera and his hat turned to the side walkin’ down the Champs Elysee” is beyond oversimplification.  It’s just downright stupid.  Maybe Mr. Capozzi could offer American tourists some sartorial advice, but one must think that the Chairman Emeritus of Publicis Public Relations and Corporate Communications Group likely has more spare cash to spend on clothing that is, presumably, less offensive to our French brethren out for a stroll on the Champs Elysee.

Globalization Sucks

“There is a broad perception out there that globalization has been fueled by America…Our reputation is really in trouble.”

• (stare at stereo moment). Mr. Capozzi states that companies like Coca Cola, McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken have led the charge that American is fueling globalization, a concept that “is not accepted universally.”  Mr. Capozzi, I would assume that a veteran of 40 years in the PR business and now the Chairman Emeritus of Publicis Public Relations and Corporate Communications Group, would understand that law of supply and demand.  If we build a KFC in Moscow and they reject it, the basic tenets of capitalism will kick in, no one will go there and the store will close.  To state that the “Kentucky Fried Chicken effect” is why people hate America is, a best, naïve, and at worst, stupid.  If people do not want American products and services, they won’t buy them.  Period.  And one more note:  for your employees’ sake, I sincerely hope that none of the agencies in the Publicis Group have as clients Coke, KFC, American Airlines, Nike or any other of the global brands that you malign as the cause of why people hate America.  If they are, you just shot yourself in the loafers.

WAIT- Globalization Doesn’t Suck - When I Benefit From It

What I found amazing about this is that Mr. Capozzi then talks about the importance of diversifying his international portfolio of agencies: “We weather downturns in an economy with upturns in another.”  Through globalization of your business.

Eric,  I mean no disrespect to you whatsoever in this post and understand completely that it is  your job to ask questions in a podcast – and no necessarily unscripted follow-up questions.  I further caveat what I am about to say by stating that I sincerely hope that Mr. Capozzi offered some statistics to back up his assertations.  But here is why what his guys said makes zero sense to me:

1. He denigrates American culture and states that it is in decline.  How about iTunes sales?  How about box office numbers?  How about Web site hits?  Without hearing hard statistics to back this up, it is pure supposition.  And Mr. Capozzi also waxes poetic about the “cultural goodwill tours, like when Louis Armstrong when to France.”    In under two minutes, I Googled Louis Armstrong, found You Tube videos and also grabbed “What a Wonderful World” on iTunes.  We have this thing called the “Internet” now which I think comes on computers.
2. When I looked up contact information for the Publicis Groupe, I’ll give you three guesses where they are headquarted…ok.. time’s up. The Champs Elysee in Paris!! By denigrating the “ugly American…in Bermuda shorts walking down the Champs Elysee” this reeks to me of pandering to the corporate masters.  I guess you need to stop going out for lunch, Lou.
3. The Publicis Group has, according to their Web site,  “44,000 employees in 196 cities in 104 countries,” and you are criticizing globalization?  Globalization is paying your salary, Mr. Capozzi, and you just bit the hand that feeds you.   And as I mentioned above, you should pray to God that none of your employees represents any of the global brands which you denigrated in your interview.
4. At the end of your interview, you mentioned depending upon the digital portions of your agency portfolio.  The Publicis Web site is a mixture of French and English – not in separate parts, but together.  Fox example, the English search game me “resultats” including “28 Octobre 2008” of “Third Quarter Revenue.”  How do you expect clients – or any client – to think that you take social media or even basic Web site development seriously if you cannot even separate French and English on your own site?
5. Finally, and the point that scares the hell out of me, is that Mr. Capozzi is on the Board of Directors for Business for Diplomatic Action, “…a private-sector a-political non-profit directed by “preeminent” [quotations added for sarcasm] communications, marketing, political science, global development and media professionals. BDA’s mission is to enlist the U.S. business community in actions to improve the standing and reputation of America in the world. The organization is leading the private sector effort to provide constructive business solutions for public diplomacy programs and initiatives.”

So to review, BDA:  your Board member suggested that:

• If we change the way we look and act, lose the Bermuda shorts and baseball caps turned sideways, people will like us better.
• Immigration people suck and are surly.  If they were nicer, people will like us better.
• Globalization sucks, yet you have made your fortune out of climbing to the top of – umm..a GLOBAL agency.”
• Many of your members, including representatives from Microsoft, Cola-Cola, McDonalds and Pepsi, all sit on BDA’s Board, elbow-to-elbow with the guy who just threw your companies under the bus.  The next get-together should really be interesting if they heard this podcast.

Dear BDA:  you need better than this.  I have a few ideas beyond sartorially challenged “ugly Americans.”

My contact form is here.

Mark

It’s not just political candidates who are being thoroughly researched these days.  At a conference a couple of weeks ago, I sat next to a senior executive at one of the few remaining, solvent investment houses and the conversation drifted to social media.

Somehow, we got on the topic of hiring.  She flat out stated: “When I get my list of final candidate when hiring, the FIRST thing I do is Google them. And then I look up their profiles on Facebook.”

And this is not at all unusual.

I have said for years that Google’s largest step was not their IPO, but when their company name went from a noun to a verb.  Like Xerox did a few years ago.  But Google has indeed become part of our lives, our work, and an important tool for HR people.

Think about the hiring process.  I was an executive in the employment industry (beginning in the pre-Internet days) before we could Google someone, but I can promise you that, especially in a down economy, the front-line person whose job it is to go through a bazillion resumes is to carry out a search for the negative. To get through the pile, you usually start by eliminating people you don’t want so you can get to the people you do want.

As an applicant, your exercise is to put your best foot forward and make yourself look like you walk on water.  It’s a bit of a dance, but the rise of search engines and social media tools have changed the employment dynamic.  As you are pressing your suit and combing your hair, that HR person is likely doing an extensive online search on you.  So it’s important to think about the following:

1. What have I written out there (blogs, comments on other people’s sites) that I would not want someone to see?
2. What, if anything has been written or posted (like um…photographs) that I would not want someone to see?  And speaking of pictures, is there a Flick account out there that needs some editing?
3. Is my Facebook profile public?
4. Is my Twitter account readily identifiable?
5. What have I bookmarked on del.icio.us?

I could go on an on with other social media tools, but you get the picture.  Most employers are, by nature, cautious.  It used to be that they would get a chance to find out about you by asking tough questions during the interview.  Now, if you do not have good answers to the above, they may well already have some of the answers.

I am by no means saying that people should not be active on social media sites.   Just remember that what you write, the pictures you pose in, and the seemingly flippant comments you might make on someone else’s site are already in your employment profile.

Mark

Just finished (what I think) will be my last piece in a series about managing online reputation. It’s in Media Bullseye, but I am still in shock over yesterday’s news about the Associated Press vs. bloggers battle.

The two issues intersect.

AP could use a lesson in online reputation management, which is the last point that I make in the article.

1. They get a societal license to operate from the people who read their content.
2. The lawyers that organizations have on retainer should all be behind a big piece of glass that should be broken “only in case of emergency.” AP was stupid, and now they have bloggers mad at them. That’s not what a wire service providing content to a dying print industry should do.

‘Nuff said.

Mark

P.S. - if anyone reading this can identify the lawyer in the picture, leave a comment below. You will get invisible extra credit in my next class.

I’ve been having more fun writing about the basic precepts of what I think are a sound online reputation management program. Latest article for Media Bullseye is here, but I can’t tell you how many times it is the rule and NOT the exception that public relations agencies gather clips, paste them into a Word document and call it “media monitoring.”

BARF!

The above is an accurate description of what they are doing; regurgitating clips with zero analysis. For example, rather than having an intern just cutting and pasting clips in a Word document, organizations that take their online reputations seriously should be thinking things like:

• What is the reach and impact of the items I have found (including print, blogs, tweets, attack sites, TV, radio and more)?;
• Can I collect as many items as possible in one place so I have a 40,000 view of my organization, its executives or our issues? What system can give this to me? Hint: Factiva plus Google alerts ain’t it.
• What opportunities or threats are presented from the coverage found?
• Has there been significant change in stakeholders, article tone or volume of coverage?
• If it is bad, what can I do about it? If it is good, how can I capitalize on it?

There’s a lot more to say, but I continue to be astounded at the immaturity of this field. Political campaigns do it well, but hardly anyone else.

Mark

I cruised over the Kami Watson’s Communications Overtones and was immediately enthused while kicking myself for missing a PRSA “Reputation Management in a Google World” teleseminar. The good news, however, is that Kami has shared the PowerPoint slides from the presentation that she and Lee Odden of Top Rank marketing.

What I think is fascinating about this presentation is how, even without the accompanying dialogue, lays out some excellent fundamentals and new perspective on SEO. Again, I was not on the call, but quite often, as I posted earlier this week, business reputational issues usually manifest themselves first in the online environment. With Google winning the search engine war, determining what people are saying about you, how prominent the voices are and how they impact stakeholder perceptions of your brand are the building blocks of an online reputation management program.

I am working on the the second in a series of articles for Media Bullseye on my take on online reputation management; stay tuned.
Mark

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